Mr. Leo Clancy:

I know exactly what the Deputy means, and I thank her for the question. It is the nub of the issue for us. I mentioned earlier that we are not moving fast enough on this as a community in Ireland. That includes the businesses we serve and just how, as a country, we are responding. The Deputy asked if companies are treating this as an emergency in the same way as Brexit, and the answer is clearly "No". They have been so hammered over recent years by Brexit, Covid-19, the consequences of the war in Ukraine and all the other factors, including inflation more recently, that it is just hard to get time and headspace. I might ask Mr. Magee to comment on this further in the context of his client base, but we have definitely not seen a reluctance to engage with the agenda. I was with a client in the mid-west last Thursday and they privately had just had their 100 or so employees in and signed their climate pledge. They are really committed to doing this, but it is taking a bit of time. I talked to them about how they brought their staff in. They had people from different teams coming together to create a green team and to actually focus on it, so they are now enthused and energised. That company is relatively sophisticated, however; it is probably a 150-person company. It is on a good journey now. It will access our support through GreenStart and is looking at GreenPlus to try to drive it on. That is really good, but not everyone is in that position.

We have been asking ourselves what more we can do. Ms Toomey, who joins me on my right, is our head of sustainability. She has done some fantastic work in recent months and is planning some great stuff. I might let her explain some of what we have done with webinars and the training courses that are coming up. Before I hand to her and then on to Mr. Magee, my big concern is how we make it easy for business. With a lot of the things out there, such as training courses or even consultants, you have to give three days to work with a consultant or you have to give four days to a training course, and it is hard for a small business owner. Ms Toomey has some answers that might help us accelerate that. I will hand over to her.