Mr. Adrian Lynch:

Ms O'Leary's evidence on the record before the House, her interview with Grant Thornton with regard to their exploration of her emails and my interactions with Ms O'Leary suggest to me that she has always told the truth all the way through this. She said that she processed invoices that were paying Ryan Tubridy, and that was a wrong thing to do. She has admitted that.

I asked Ms O'Leary where the instruction came from around consultancy, and she said "Genuinely, Adrian, I cannot remember". That is what is on the record, and I believe that because otherwise-----