John McGuinness (Carlow-Kilkenny, Fianna Fail)
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The Department is the Department responsible for public expenditure and reform, and now it has the added responsibility of national development plan delivery. If a Department fails in the delivery of the national development plan, the Department of Public Expenditure, National Development Plan Delivery and Reform fails. If a Department fails in terms of public expenditure, the Department of Public Expenditure, National Development Plan Delivery and Reform fails. In terms of reform, in learning from failures or from a risk that was taken that did not pay off, is it Mr. Conlon's Department that learns from that and then strengthens the circulars that are issued to different Departments? Quite frankly, the public is fed up looking at report after report and seeing the State losing what now amounts to millions and billions of euro very easily.