Cormac Devlin (Dún Laoghaire, Fianna Fail)
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It paints a different picture for us. All of this played out in the public domain, as Mr. O'Donnell can appreciate. He is right that everything went to the Minister and the Oireachtas heard that the Minister was taking action on IFI. What Mr. O'Donnell is saying this morning does not necessarily chime with what we are seeing and he can appreciate why. There is clearly a problem somewhere and it will come out in the wash.

My next question is for Ms Bradley as head of HR. It is about the morale of the staff. How many staff does IFI have at present?