Mr. Paddy Phelan:

This goes back to one of Deputy Bruton's previous economic Ministries. Producer responsibility and end-user responsibility were touched upon. In my experience over recent years when procuring for clean energy for beneficiaries whether they be in public are private sector actors, cost and value for money are fundamental to the decision on why somebody buys something. If we do not force producers to manufacture more circular economy products with the value around waste around the ability to optimise digitisation innovation and if we continue to purchase the cheapest available product, it will not deliver results on reducing carbon.