Mr. Richard Collins:

The director general was involved in this. I took comfort, from a control point of view, that the director general was looking at this. At the time, the Deputy must remember, I was dealing with a number of major issues in the organisation. It was early on in Covid, it looked like RTÉ could run out of cash, we had an accounting system implementation that was not going well and could have caused major problems for the business and we had two big tax audits which put us under pressure on. My focus-----