Patrick Costello (Dublin South Central, Green Party)
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I asked most of my questions in the first round but I have a question on increasing numbers. We talked a lot in other sessions about travelling to Switzerland. If we are to examine the numbers for Switzerland, we must note they will be somewhat inflated because they will include people who travelled from jurisdictions where the service is not available. What is the position on assisted dying in states in Australia other than Victoria? Do people who travel to Victoria inflate the numbers? The same applies to the Netherlands and Belgium.

Are there safeguards around that? I am conscious the discussion may be slipping into some of the areas we will dig into in the international section in Dr. Campbell's experience of the differing levels of safeguards between, for example, the Benelux countries and Victoria, which work better?