Mr. Denis Duggan:

One significant skill gap - we are engaging with the Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine on that - specifically relates to the project that Dr. Egan referred to earlier, which is the DNA testing and the genomics programme. That is, by comparison with what the committee would have seen in the likes of Irish Cattle Breeding Federation, ICBF, a data-driven process. It requires geneticists and data scientists. It is a high-skilled workforce. We are going through an exercise internally to quantify both the financial quantum of the ask and, equally, the number of people that are required over a number of years to support the equine industry through Horse Sport Ireland, HSI, in delivering that type of initiative.

Our total head count in terms of the overall number of people hovers between 42 and 45, or maybe 46, people. As the Senator can appreciate, related back to graduate employment, there is always a buoyancy in that number. That is probably the ideal complement in terms of the services both in breeding services and passport functioning and the high performance sport that we are trying to deliver.