Brian Leddin (Limerick City, Green Party)
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I thank Mr. Marren for that. Are supports generally related to the operational costs - the unit costs - of electricity or do they tend to relate to both the capital outlay and the operational costs?

They tend to be both. One of the reasons is a substantial cost differential in the installation and integration of the equipment. Even when that investment is made, an operational support is needed. This is the thing we need to drive home. Unlike anaerobic digestion and biomass, which may require 15 years of support, we do not see heat pumps and e-heat for industry needing long-term supports because there will be a migration towards this gap in the future. It is just that if we wait for that migration to happen, which might be five to ten years away, it will not be adapted to these technologies.