Ms Marie O'Shea:

We do not have precise numbers because those data are not collected. One of the things mentioned in the report when it comes to monitoring and evaluation is that it would be good to get an understanding of what people did next when they were refused a termination of pregnancy here. To have that knowledge would be very important from the perspective of designing public health services. There are very few countries that disaggregate their figures. England and Wales will indicate how many people who used abortion services there provided Irish addresses. We know the same from the Netherlands, so we know from those figures that Irish people are still travelling. I know anecdotally-----