Professor Jim Livesey:

That is a great question. It is a team sport. Because of the complexity of the movement from research and innovation, which is a causal but non-linear relationship, the kind of people who are good at one end tend not to be good at the other.

There are entrepreneurs who sit right in the middle but they are few and far between. If you were to construct your system around only selecting those, you would have no system. What we need to be able to do is construct teams which are effective at managing, mobilising and curating the separate functions that are in there. The key part is producing in the country people like the Senator who have good experience of research management and are able to move those pieces because it is a tricky thing with the different personality types and the different value orientations that are in place in an innovation system.