Dr. Alan Wall:

Each year, yes. Every year, there are 600 or 700. Every year, a new group of 600 students come online looking for those 82 or 83 places.

I know this less well because those institutions are not within my purview. We think there are more than 200 students overall studying abroad, as the Deputy's daughter will be. Those are the numbers we are looking at. You will never satisfy all of those numbers nor, frankly, should we seek to as a system. We do not do it anywhere else. There will always be those who are disappointed. I think what the Deputy is asking is if there are broader things that matter in an assessment, besides points. The points will stay but as I said, medicine has looked at the health professions admission test, HPAT, before. There is a portfolio system, which UCD uses. We would advocate broader use of it. They are supplementary. They give an opportunity for students to demonstrate a broader capacity. The HPAT is good at that. It asks other questions beyond the points ones. There is a likely solution in there, but the market will never be entirely satisfied, nor should it be. The State could not sustain 600 or 700 vets per year. There is also an opportunity cost to the university in terms of other things the students could be doing.