Mr. Brendan Gleeson:

I am not an expert but I will try to explain as best I can. We pay for activities that help to reduce the emissions from land use and one of those activities is forestry. Another is reducing the intensification of management of grassland and some rewetting. We pay people to do those things. The benefit of the emissions reduction from that has to be countable in the national inventory. Otherwise there is no benefit to the State and we would not do it. It has to be countable in the national inventory. That is how it works right now. Separately, there is an effort under way at present to build some kind of a carbon farming model at European Union level. This model would provide a framework to enable farmers or landowners, for example, to benefit in some financial way from the reduction of emissions at farm level. It is currently at an embryonic stage. It is difficult because a certification system and a framework for consistent measurement right across the European Union needs to be created. The intention at European Union level is to have the framework in place for 2030. Now we are not quite-----