Mr. Ger Brophy:

Significantly, in this area, we are dealing with retrospective allegations. We have seen good co-operation at times between the Garda and Tusla, which has been acknowledged in a variety of reviews and inquiries. At times, there has been not so good co-operation as well, particularly around church inquiries in the past. There has been good co-operation between us and the Garda. We have met on a co-operative basis with the church, gone through allegations and established where there was non-co-operation or where we needed to get more co-operation and how we might facilitate that. It is a combination of the powers that we have to encourage, to put children first, to explain that to people, to provide the structures for them to do that and to encourage them to put those structures in place in their own organisation. If we are aware that is not happening, we then combine with the Garda to be able to have those conversations with them. By and large, that resolves situations where there has been retrospective abuse. We have not yet come across a current situation and the need to go in to, as we say, identify organisational abuse where that is happening currently.