Dr. Mary Keogh:

My colleagues might want to respond. I think that what the Senator is speaking to is the whole localisation empowerment shift in terms of how development funding actually gets drilled down into communities, and how communities are able to have choice about how they work with that funding. We are all sitting here with our INGO hats on us, and in many spaces we are sitting in those countries sometimes, potentially even blocking some of that funding from actually going to communities - not purposefully, but just because of the way the systems have been set up. I can speak from the CBM Global perspective. We are on a very early journey with localisation. Ms Van Lieshout and Ms McKenna can probably speak a bit more to the issue in terms of examples. It is true that the dignity and empowerment piece is critical to us. As an organisation, two years ago, we did a listening exercise with all of our partners that we work with that are organisations of persons with disabilities. Basically, we said we wanted to hear how we were doing and where we were doing well. We also really wanted to hear how we were not doing well and what we could do to strengthen it. That, in itself, was a power dynamic question that we were asking, because we were asking it of people who were receiving funding or working in partnership with us. We had to be mindful of that. It was very open and honest dialogue. I am happy to share that listening exercise with the committee. We heard our partner organisations saying to us that sometimes the structures that we put in place in terms of giving funding can actually be barriers to them to get access to funding. It really made us think through how we do our work. It is not something that can be fixed overnight. It is a capacity-building piece to work with the organisations that we work with to build capacity. As an organisation and a federation, that is what our critical aim is. Organisations of persons with disabilities in the global south are at the heart of what we do, and how we work with them how we build those relationships and also build sustainable and work in partnership in that way. I can share the listening exercise with the committee. It is not a very long detailed document, but it might give members an insight into that empowerment piece that happens at local level. I might hand over to Ms Van Lieshout and Ms McKenna.