Richard Bruton (Dublin Bay North, Fine Gael)
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My understanding is that there are some examples in Ireland where there are tentative moves towards carbon rewards or environmental rewards but they are on a small scale. Is it just a question of scaling that? Does Mr. O'Brien have confidence in those sorts of measures? He is saying the scheme must be voluntary and that there must be 100% compensation. That sounds like a policy for no change, in a sense. We are in a climate emergency. No one doubts that. We need to find confidence-building measures and not just say it must be voluntary and 100%. Farmers need to give us something to work with here.