Mr. Michael Crosse:

In fairness, all the research work around sheep that is done in Ireland shows that the best farmers who are doing the best practice are struggling to make a living from sheep farming. The benefits of the practices they preach and work on, and the benefits of all that research, will be heightened if they have milking sheep. They will really see the benefits in such circumstances. If they have a profitable high-output system with milking sheep, they will reap the rewards even further from all the work that has been done in areas like genomics and grassland management. As Mr. Brendan Crosse said, it takes someone to push through these innovations. The real deficit is in getting innovative ideas off the ground. Then the larger bodies like Teagasc will be very happy to engage and to do the research in the future.