Mr. Mike Glennon:

Correct. There is an issue with the private growers that definitely needs to be dealt with. I share the Deputy's view, and I am slightly concerned, that the junior Minister in the Department does not see the full value of commercial forestry. The number of people employed in it, the houses we have built from it, and its overall contribution to society has been lost and the only thing we can talk about is broadleaves. We need both and I believe we in the the Irish Timber Council have failed to communicate correctly to the Department the full value of the sawmill industry. We have not been able to get that message across. I share the Deputy's view of the 25,000 ha, that if we cannot get the rest of them planted, how will that happen?