Mr. Brian Rushe:

Yes, and farmers were supported in doing that but there is definitely a focus at farm level now on what they can do for the environment. Everyone wants to do more but the problem with forestry is that there is such little confidence in it that people are allergic to even considering it on their ground. That cannot be underestimated. If confidence can be changed at farm level, in terms of farmers looking at forestry as something that is not going give them a headache that will last for ten years, they will do it and their neighbours will do it. There can be peer learning in that regard. Fundamentally, it comes down to the lack of confidence at farm level, which is similar to what the previous witnesses have said.