Mr. Mark Malone:

I welcome the space for clarity as well. There is a fairly well rehearsed trope, which is known as the horseshoe theory, whereby the far right and the far left are essentially the same thing. That almost contradicts the assertion that there is no far right. It is unclear because there are two assertions made that contradict each other.

There are two political organisations registered in this country that run in elections: one that openly pushes white supremacist conspiracy theories and another that regularly quotes Adolf Hitler. Saying they do not gain significant support in the electoral poll is completely different to saying they do not exist. At what point do we start paying attention to it? Is it when such a party gets 5% or 10%? At what stage do we say this is a problem? Because all the partners here today work with communities that are affected by this stuff, we take it seriously because it is us. We have heard it is not real. I know the Senator said he posed the question from the perspective of being a devil's advocate. However, that as an assertion is from a space that is unaffected by what the far right is about. Only those who feel they are completely untouched by what reactionary forces are about will assert that they do not exist. I will leave it there.