Ms Susanne Rogers:

This almost echoes the Chair's point about working and disability. Our approach is binary. You are capable of work or you are not. There is nothing in between that says a person might be capable of work but only for five mornings a week, or might be capable of doing certain work if certain supports are put in place by their employer. You are either in or you are out. As we age, disabilities come with that. Looking at the flexibility around an individualised approach is key. The Chair was talking about supporting older workers and older women. As someone who has had a couple of career pivots in my lifetime, they just get really hard as you age.