Pat Buckley (Cork East, Sinn Fein)
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Just before Ms Gibney comes in, Dr. McDonagh is right. It is rights-based. We have had it here on certain committees where we feel like people have been treated very badly. They have actually gone to the European Ombudsman and the European Commission of Human Rights. I still feel sometimes it is not within their remit and they will come back again; it is excuses. If we keep thinking that way, we are never going to change. We will not be a rights-based society. That is my point.

Before I step down from the Chair, I call on Ms Gibney. I thank the witnesses for listening to me.