Oireachtas Joint and Select Committees

Thursday, 15 December 2022

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Implementation of the Good Friday Agreement

Architects of the Good Friday Agreement (Resumed): Mr. Gerry Adams

Mr. Francie Molloy:

I thank Mr. Adams for his presentation and answers. I pay tribute to the work done by Mr. Adams and everyone else within that, particularly the Hume-Adams discussions that took place and that led to the Good Friday Agreement at the end of the day. Recently, about the question of the referendum and when a referendum should be held, Bertie Ahern commented that the Good Friday Agreement was ambiguous and everyone could look at it in their own way. I thought the Good Friday Agreement was a means to achieve self-determination by peaceful means, backed with a vote. I would not like to think that what the Good Friday Agreement was about was open for interpretation. What does Mr. Adams think about Mr. Ahern's comments?

The other issue is around legacy, as was touched on. The Stormont House Agreement, which was not a republican document by any means, was a means of dealing with legacy and moving forward in that particular way, because each family obviously wants different things out of the legacy process. On planning for the referendum on Irish unity, 25 years have passed since the Good Friday Agreement. Coming out of the room that day, I thought we were moving very quickly into a new situation. Twenty-five years seems to represent many lost opportunities for moving the process forward. Nothing has really been achieved except for creating a better atmosphere for the future. Reading back on some stuff Colin Wallace wrote on the role of MI5 in the North during all the Troubles, he said it was part and parcel of both arming and implementing with loyalists some of the atrocities that happened. Looking back on it now, we can see that when the ceasefires were called, alternative organisations were set up both on the republican side and the loyalist side. Does Mr. Adams see a role of the British establishment in that and how those alternative arrangements or organisations were created within it?

All of that now goes in the past and we can talk about the past, but what is needed now for full implementation of the Good Friday Agreement? What are the next steps Mr. Adams sees that can bring this to fruition?