Michael Fitzmaurice (Roscommon-Galway, Independent)
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I will tell Ms Hurley what the scale is. The scale is the small farmer in areas where private investment companies, not Coillte, will be coming in. Coillte will be running the forests and competing with those farmers while the investment companies will be drawing grants now that Coillte never drew before. That is the reality. Will the witnesses tell me-----