Ms Caroline Spillane:

We are seeing positives in the research. One of them is around the composition of the board and the other is having ESG skills on the board. If we could get to a point where boards understand that they need to have a level of ESG skills at the boardroom table and this needs to be discussed, issues will surface. A more educated board will be able to anticipate risks with relationships and investments and be able to make better, longer-term decisions that will be better for their companies.