Professor Paul Downes:

They are happening earlier as well but we need that urgently, yes. This is why we cannot wait for just the primary school pilot to take place and review. This is why we need the secondary school to have a similar pilot. It is psychologically nonsensical to have one for primary and have services at third level and not have them at the time of development of most risk and complexity, and coming out of a pandemic as well. What we will end up having, ironically, is that by the time it comes into secondary schools, the students who have had the benefit of the service in primary school will be the ones getting the service in secondary schools. However, we will have missed a whole generation if we wait.