Dr. David Doyle:

I will respond to the Deputy's question about whether other services are available throughout Ireland. We would love to see more. We are certainly available to help people. Two services are working with us to see how they can get going. It is not that the St. Joseph's Foundation wants to expand but that we want to help others to provide the service. It is difficult to find people to do it because it is an experience. It is not about riding horses. The business of riding centres is about riding horses and they are successful but for us it is about communication and helping people to move on from what they learn in the equestrian centre and adapt it to the outside world.

To give an example, Caroline would not go into a room or tent with more than three people. That would cause another world war. She just could not cope with the anxiety that would come if there were more people than that in the room. This is why other equestrian centres do not do this. We used her love of a particular horse. The psychologists from the horse boy group at St. Joseph's Foundation came up with the idea of using that particular horse to do a demonstration. Some 400 people were at an indoor event one night and she went in and sat there for two hours, which was unheard of. The benefit of that was that three weeks later, she went to see The Coronas in The Marquee in Cork with 5,000 people. It is about using the experience and removing the anxiety of having to go into a crowd to be able to operate in the normal world. That is why it takes a special equestrian centre to do that, give the time required and to say we are not here to ride horses. It is more than that. If we hear of anyone in the south east, we would be more than happy to help them.