Mr. Mark Darmody:

Senator Wall mentioned carers. Cara would be classed as a young carer. I never thought I was a carer until I went to a carers' forum once.

As for the cost, to answer the Senator's question directly, Neil may want to go on what we call a special patrol sometimes twice in an evening. It takes one hour a time. That is what we do in the evening. That is how a Saturday is taken up. We are talking a 500 km to 600 km drive a week. That alone costs probably anything up to €100. Take summer time and a simple thing. Neil turns on every light in the house. We turn off the lights. Our ESB bill is through the roof. We do not complain about those costs, but they are additional.