Ms Maria Joyce:

On those points around data and the need for monitoring and to go beyond anecdotal evidence, critical within that is the need for an ethnic identifier. The Minister for Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth, is looking at equality proofing in the context of data but if we do not have some form of ethnic identification within that, we will still not be able to measure the piece.

Before the Minister, Deputy McAuliffe, leaves,-----