Mr. Enda McGorman:

I am very conscious of the preponderance of representation at post-primary level around the table. At primary level the roles of administrative deputy principal, counsellor or chaplain do not exist. With the moratorium in school leadership teams for the past decade, the supports we have are minuscule. The only service we have available to us are special education teachers, who are run ragged at the moment dealing with all the other educational issues they have to deal with. I know resources are finite, but the idea that we could have any of those supports at primary level would be a dream to us. We do not have access to any of them, unfortunately. I know Ms O'Rourke mentioned that in her submission, but it is a matter of getting that support. I think the need for it is well demonstrated at this stage at primary level, particularly senior primary level, because the problems children experience at post-primary level are right there at senior and even mid-primary level as well.