Ms Aoife O'Sullivan:

As well as being aspirational, there is also a very practical side to this because in order to get a section 481 certificate from the Department of Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media, you must have in place a very sound and very detailed skills plan, which includes your list of trainees and, very often, who those people are. More recently, we have had diversity, equality and inclusion added to that skills plan. You have to go through all those checks and balances, and there is very rigorous compliance to be achieved when you do that. Then it is so important to continue the regional uplift and the regional trainees who were required for that. Deputy Ryan asked about trainees staying in the industry. They are not necessarily in a position to move to Dublin-Wicklow to work. If we want to sustain the industry nationwide and keep the trainees in the industry, it is really important that the regional uplift is there. The two projects I have produced in Kerry and Galway would have happened in Dublin-Wicklow if it were not for the uplift, not because we wanted them to happen in Dublin-Wicklow but because we would just not have been able to afford to make them in Kerry or Galway. We were very fortunate because both those projects were based and set in those places and we would have had to cheat them in-----