Mr. Brian O'Mahony:

The area-based approach is being delivered in the community energy grant scheme. We deliver that in partnership with project co-ordinators who are usually connected to sustainable energy communities and local authorities.

We have seen that recently in Cork, where two housing estates have been upgraded, with local authority homeowners who were energy poor and private homeowners all upgraded. In recent years, local authorities have been pushing all of those homeowners to go to B2 and the utilities are coming in to help bridge the gap for the homeowners to reach that B2 uplift. That is actually happening. What I am trying to explain is that we are doing everything. We cannot just do one and concentrate wholly on an area-based approach. We believe that is very important and that is why we are trialling different approaches, but we believe we need to be doing everything across the board, not only to deliver on our climate targets but also to help homeowners through this and future winters.