Ms Sonya Lennon:

We see it every day in how we converse around this. How we converse is vital. The discourse and communication that surround every one of the recommendations are paramount. I had a quick chat with the Chair about the composition of this very Chamber, which is 80% women. I am delighted to have the men who comprise the remaining 20% in the room, but this has to be framed as a societal issue, not a women's issue. This room should have a ratio of 50:50. Deloitte did major work on covering in the workplace and how, unsurprisingly, 86% of the members of the LGBT community cover their true selves in the workplace. The research covered 3,000 people. It was found that 45% of white men also cover in the workplace. Part of what they are covering is there positive motivation towards supporting women. They feel they will be ostracised for standing up for women. Research from Stanford shows that both men and women do not like it when men stand up for women. It is a really thorny issue. Part of our role in this whole process is giving men permission to be part of the solution. Currently, I believe there is a bit of a disconnection. Role modelling is a massive part, as we have discussed. Policy is a massive part, but everyday behaviour, actions and words are what will really matter.