Mr. Stephen Mulvany:

The managers and CEOs manage the overall hospitals but we have to be very clear that we want consultants and other clinicians to do what they do, which is take a huge role in the day-to-day decisions around individual patients and contribute hugely to general management and strategic development. Therefore, yes, most of the decisions in many of our services come down to clinical staff and, in the hospitals, that comes down to consultants. They are not the only members of the team but they are very important members of the team. The vast majority of them do a really good job. It is in terms of-----