Mr. Stephen Mulvany:

Without being able to comment on the specific issue, and we can certainly give the committee a note, the section 39s will probably disagree with the Deputy. The relationship is one we are working on, and need to work on, but there is a lot of engagement around individual client needs, accommodating additional clients and equality around what is being provided to existing service users. That is an ongoing process between every CHO, every disability service manager and the section 39s they are funding. Whatever about the formulaic, monthly, performance-type meeting, day in, day out our managers and placement co-ordinators are engaging with voluntary providers about the quality of service people are getting, or are trying to get people access to services. It is a collaborative partnership thing. Sometimes, voluntaries do not have the flexibility they used to have in the past - maybe that is a good thing - to provide accommodation or services.