Mr. Stephen Mulvany:

Again it varies. Some have small surpluses they have built over the years. Remember that there are about 2,000 organisations funded under section 39. At the top end, the organisations referred to by the Deputy are typically north of €3 million. Some of them are under financial pressure while others are under less pressure. Sometimes it relates to whether they have had to provide residential services and how they have been able to respond to regulation in recent years, which has put pressure on our own services. While we say in the first instance that it is a matter for the boards of the voluntary organisations, we are aware of our role in that too. If you look across the larger section 39 organisations in the disability sector, a number have financial issues while others are in a reasonable position or have moderate surpluses.