Ms Mary McLaughlin:

It is part of the problem but, to clarify, in removal, the need for the orthopaedic or plastic surgeon is about the approach the urogynaecological surgeon takes to finding the end of the tape on each side of the patient's thigh. The world expert uses a tissue sparing, muscle sparing technique. If you have a plastic or orthopaedic surgeon in the operating room, the mesh surgeon goes in and uses a rougher way of getting at the end and he cuts muscle. The orthopaedic or plastic surgeon-----