Mr. Marc Kierans:

I thank Deputy Smith. I do not want to comment on the media stuff but tensions are healthy. It is a challenge but there are honest conversations going on across all Departments. We have heard that already this afternoon. People are being honest and frank about it. It is good that it is out in the open and we are having those discussions.

The pathways in the climate action plan and in the sectoral ceilings are not absolute. They are pathways that we anticipate will deliver the savings that are required under the Act. They will evolve over time. Some will deliver early and some will deliver late. Some might not realise what they have. There has to be flexibility built into that. We recognise this in the pathways. There is a risk that if some of those measures do not deliver they will have to look at alternative measures. That is the honest conversation about how different sectors will deal with that. All sectors are at risk of not delivering on certain aspects of it. We must have those conversations.

I would defer to my colleagues from the Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine in the context of those risks, which they articulated in their opening statement. We need to be cognisant of that.