Mr. Denis Sheridan:

In the District Court. Therefore, a whole process will have to be gone through before the figure of €12,500 is even got near. There is currently a multinational company whose turnover is €6.3 billion. Even if it were to be got on indictment whereby the figure of €12,500 would be relevant, there is no deterrent there. What could possibly happen is that it would take the fine and still not implement it, because the process would have to start to be gone through again. The whole aspect of penalties has to be looked at.

Fines are one thing, but the way they are dealt with has to be looked at. We talk about fines. Mr. Hayes has discussed how the fines range. Currently, there is another company within the CAC that was fined €45,000. The minute Brexit happened, it came straight to Ireland and refused to put workers’ rights in place. That is what we say in regard to fines, and the directive states there has to be a deterrent. We need to start on this. We have our figures for what would be a deterrent, Mr. Hayes would have his, and so on. However, we need to move from the current position.

I do not know if Mr. McCormack has a view.