Mr. Liam Bergin:

I will go back to something the Chairman said earlier that was touched on a number of times, namely, constructive and lively discussion in council chambers in terms of translating national policy into local policy. I do not think that is a bad thing. I think it is necessary. First of all, it is a sign of a healthy democracy that people can have their views aired locally. Many councillors and officials are on a journey. Some of them are very climate-conscious while some are becoming more climate-conscious. Everybody has a series of priorities and we are re-ordering those priorities. That is true for councillors as well. Realistically, what we would expect and what we find is that as the priorities of the people re-order so do the priorities of those who represent them, i.e., the councillors. The councillors reflect public opinion. Public opinion is changing-----