Mr. Paul Reid:

I am sorry, but if I can say this, I spent many years in Third World services in developing countries in a previous role I had with Trócaire. I know what a Third World service is like. We are recognised as having the longest life expectancy by any OECD measure. It is important for the record to state this in the context of public perceptions. We are trying to recruit and to retain people in a public service. It is a health service that has many challenges, but some of the references to us having a Third World service are not correct. They are not borne out by life expectancy and or by cancer care or cardio care. We accept we have radical challenges-----