Mr. Pat Murphy:

I share all the views expressed. From the NDA's perspective, there is no doubt but that mainstreaming is driving the agenda. As Mr. Flanagan said, there are arguments for and against it. Sometimes things are lost in translation when everything is boxed off into individual departments, as are the cross-fertilisation and the information exchange between them. I understand the principle and why it goes that way, but it creates a lot of problems.

I will make a final point. Perhaps the committee could consider bringing in employers who have experience of the wage subsidy scheme and of employing people with disabilities to inform the committee's deliberations at some stage. I could suggest some people who might talk to the committee about that.