Louise O'Reilly (Dublin Fingal, Sinn Fein)
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My next question is for Ms Graham and Ms Mulholland. It is more around the current impact of not having any access to paid leave for victims and survivors. Is it their experience that women - and I will say women because it is mostly women but not only women - have lost their jobs? Have they found themselves in that situation because they could not access leave? It is important to put it in the legislation but it also is important to have the conversations that go along with it and to bring the subject out of the shadows. Do they see there is a value in that? Practically speaking, in their experience is this the case? Thinking of my own experience, I can think of at least one case, and possibly two, where I can say the person definitely lost their job because they could not access paid leave and they had exhausted every other form of leave.