Ms Helen Hall:

Two different pieces of work were done by the same firm. When I used the word ten, I reminded myself that one piece of work was to do with ethnic indicators. There is a considerable gap in the data the Garda and the Policing Authority have to show that policing is fair and proportionate. We got one piece of advice on whether legislation was needed to allow the Garda to collect ethnic indicators. The answer to that was that legislation was needed. The second piece of advice we got from this firm was on Article 2. It was €5,000.