Mr. Andrew Munro:

I am happy to point up some of the issues arising from the Senator's contribution. We have seen some very difficult examples in the past whereby, to be fair, intending parents were trying to do the right thing. Many people got exploited by bad actors. For example, the egg that was supplied by the purported donor was not that egg; the child given to the intending parents was not conceived from the sperm of the intending father; the surrogate mother was spirited away over a border immediately after the birth; or the local authority provided a birth certificate that named the intending father as the father despite the child having none of his genetic material. That is no reflection on the intending parents, but there were many bad actors and it can be seen how the surrogate mother, the child and the intending parents were exploited because of weak public administration in a country. There are therefore a range of things that can go-----