Mr. Padraic McElwee:

I will be brief. Lean is about sending a consultant into a business and identifying where that business can save costs and improve its productivity. On average, business that participate in that programme save approximately €30,000 annually, which is very positive.

Micro for Green is a pilot programme. We have been encouraged by the take-up of it. An evaluation will be done. The early analysis suggests that most of the savings that have been achieved by businesses under the green consultancy can be done in-house. They do not need a financial support to achieve those savings. Our objective is to build on that support. I am happy to sit down with the Senator and elaborate on those points at a future date.