Oireachtas Joint and Select Committees

Thursday, 9 December 2021

Public Accounts Committee

2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 37 - Social Protection
Chapter 9 - Regularity of Social Welfare Payments
Chapter 10 - Management of Social Welfare Appeals
Chapter 11 - Controls Over the Covid-19 Pandemic Unemployment Payment

9:30 am

Photo of Catherine MurphyCatherine Murphy (Kildare North, Social Democrats)
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As Mr. McKeon said, we will agree to disagree on some of this. I have no doubt that some people are satisfied, but the level of dissatisfaction was something that, as a public representative, I could not ignore. That is why I continue to raise it.

I wish to ask about the scope section of the Department of Social Protection and about the possibility of bogus self-employment. Does the scope section look at an individual or a sector? Does it match an individual with a sector? I know Deputy Munster raised this earlier. I find it very difficult to join the dots on exactly who makes the decision or where the decision is made about who is employed and who is self-employed. Revenue is telling us one thing and Mr. McKeon is telling us something different. I do not know where the decision is actually made.