Mr. Derrie Dillon:

Maybe Mr. Keane would like to come in on this as well but Ms Richardson hit the nail on the head. We can have varying interventions and that is important because one has to see role models and ambassadors in the industry to get other female farmers involved. We need supports such as additional incentives but a lot of these measures are more short-term and they are only trying to get parity. We need to remove that barrier and get to the nature of what it really is to get to that justice level that Ms Richardson mentioned.

We need to move beyond equality and equity. It is like putting supports under people to get them all at the same level. If they are watching a match, for instance, and the barrier in front of them is too high, you can put boxes under them to raise them up. Putting those supports under people is the same thing we are trying to do in the short term. We need to do that but we have to take away the fence that is in front of them in order that everybody can see the match. Therefore, individual supports would not be needed then because everybody would have equal access and parity and justice. That is what has to be worked at over time. It is a conundrum. It is not easy to get a magic solution to this, but we need to look at it in the short, medium and long term. Where do we want to get to? What are the barriers? We need to identify them clearly and get the supports in to start with. The supports are not the long-term solution; they are only short-term measures. That is where we are at presently. That is how we see it from Macra na Feirme's perspective initially. Mr. Keane might have some additional comments in relation to the group.