Mr. Olli Ruutu:

I would not be able to give the Deputy a figure from the multi-annual financial framework that is altogether dedicated to this. The importance in the long-term multi-annual perspective is that, in different work programmes, for example in the European defence fund, we will see emphasis on cyber defence-related capabilities. It is very important, and what the agency wants to convey is, that we need to invest in cyber defence capabilities over the long term, throughout the entire multi-annual financial framework and then beyond. In a way, at the European level, we need to support co-operation and have an objective so that in the 2030s and 2040s, over the long term, we are able to field capabilities in cyber defence that are sustainable and that are also interoperable in the digital environment we are moving towards. It is a long-term exercise and, in this review we have done, we will be able to see the exact financial figures, although, unfortunately, I am not able to give them to the committee that today. The importance in all of that is, with regard to European resources overall, there are limits to how much we can spend on cyber defence given the other interests. Our approach is very much to try to structure the discussion to make sure that we have priorities where co-operative spending on that would be most effective. It is about the collaborative approach and the investment that will be necessary.