Eamon Ryan (Dublin Bay South, Green Party)
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I can go to the Minister for Finance and say that a public service, our local schools, can be improved, and that we can pay for it over the period of the loan, which might be ten to 15 years, and that the cost of the loan is covered by the energy savings. The loan does not add to the national debt. That will be a key element in the retrofitting required to meet our decarbonisation targets. The tools are starting to come into place. We have to use them at scale.